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Daily Jewish Prayer & Submission - כריעות בשמונה עשרה



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According to Talmudic law and the shita of Rambam (Maimonides) and his son R' Abraham. NOTE: Not EVERYTHING done in the clip is obligatory. I made this clear in the annotations. If someone is confused or mislead because he did not read, that is not my fault. READ. ------------------------- T
RANSLATION OF HEBREW http://sagavyah.tripod.com/id103.html#fullprayer INFORMATION ON BOWING http://sagavyah.tripod.com/id82.html#kneeling --------------- In our days there are not many Jews who still kneel and bow during regular daily prayer. A noticable number of Orthodox Ashkenazi Jews do bow to
the ground during Yom haKipurim and Rosh haShana. Most Jews are not even aware that such is the historical practice of the Jewish people to kneel and prostrate during regular daily prayer. Therefore, be prepared that if you kneel or prostrate in most synagogues, you are sure to get reactions of s
urprise. They may or may not be encouraging reactions. Nonetheless, so long as you are still able to concentrate properly while praying and are willing to endure the possible consequences of bowing and prostrating in public, I only encourage you to do so. It is a shame to fear men more than the M
ost High. How can bowing or prostrating be a sign of arrogance, especially when you know people may look upon you negatively for doing so? Rather, it is an expression of humility and submission to the Almighty. The following text of formal Jewish prayer and instruction on how it is done is accord
ing to Talmudic law as codified in the Mishneh Torah of Rambam (Maimonides). References to halakha are given in abbreviated form. For example, HT5:4 means "Hilkhoth Tefilah" chapter 5, the fourth halakha. Hilkhoth Tefilah is found in Sefer Ahavah in the Mishneh Torah: "The mention of bending-do
wn {k'reya} in every place is on the knees.." (HT5:13) There are 5 places where one "bends-down" during this prayer (HT5:10). Each time one "bends-down," he should arch his back bending over until his backbone pokes out slightly (HT5:12). One need not bow in this manner if he is unable because
it causes him pain (HT5:12). There are some additional reasons why a person may not need to fully bow, usually either because of stress of the situation or stress of the body (HT5:1). I will elaborate upon these later. The 5 places where one "bends-down" are highlighted in the text of prayer foun
d in the link below. In the text of prayer found on that link, upon reading a word highlighted in bold letters, "bend-down" and make your body like an arch (qeshet). Afterwards, straighten back up into a standing position upon reading a word that is underlined. The content of this prayer were e
stablished by the Court established under Moses, at the time at which it was headed by Ezra, Nehemiah, Daniel, Zechariah, etc... with the exception of a few small portions that were added by a later generation of that same Great Court. This prayer is called the Amidah (standing) because the majorit
y of it is prayed in standing position (HT5:2); It's also called the Shemoneh Esreh (eight-teen) because, though now it consists of 19 blessings, it originally consisted of 18 blessings to the Almighty When beginning any of the 3 daily prayers, start from a standing position facing toward the Temp
le in Israel, with feet side by side, eyes lowered, and ones right hand clasped over his left hand over his heart, with his heart turned to "Above" in fear, awe, and dread, as a servant before his master, (HT5:4). The text for the regular weekday prayer can be found HERE: http://sagavyah.tripod.com
/id103.html#fullprayer


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It is there mistake ... ( 6 months ago by omedyashar)
It is there mistake if they think we are muslims. We are only obligated to refrain from the Marit Ayin which Hhazal decreed. It is totally unreasonable to think that "marit Ayin" is a reason to not uphold Talmudic decrees, if it were -- the Sages would not have instituted those decrees. Pagans have been prostrating long before Muslims.
We should also not circumcise our sons, they might be mistaken for Muslims in the miqva, like bowing in the SYNAGOGUE.
Pagans, yes! ... ( 6 months ago by rapartist43)
Pagans, yes! Another good argument.
It is a positive ... ( 6 months ago by omedyashar)
It is a positive commandment in bringing biqqurim that one prostrate in the process. If this is Marit Ayin, it is marit Ayin that the Almighty demands, goes along with not being atheist... despite that most non-Jews are also not atheist, or prayer, or getting married, or abstaining during nidda (muslims also do this), etc.. etc.. We must stick with divrei Hhazal.
Right, pagans ... ( 6 months ago by omedyashar)
Right, pagans prostrated long before Muslims, and yet Hhazal ruled in the Talmud that we must prostrate in prayer -- despite tha they were well aware that pagans were doing it.
We find it throughout Tanakh.
But of course, we do not do it in all the same exact details as the pagans, just as I'm not bowing exactly as muslims do in this video. Muslims never bow flat-prostrate, with arms and legs spread-out.
Have a good evening ... ( 6 months ago by omedyashar)
Have a good evening/night/ whereever you are on the globe. It's time to get some shut eye over here. It's almost 11 p.m. b-areS.
haha whats the ... ( 6 months ago by ChristianLove2008)
haha whats the point of having your hands on your face? You also said this is the Manhaj of the Jews? lool you gotto be kidding me, I have never seen one Jew pray like this on Sabbath, they pray like christians and have chairs lined like a church, so please don;t kid, and yes Pagans also prostrated and they prostrated to their Idols, we Muslims prostrate to the Wall or a Sutra(covering) and we believe the salah(connects) us with Allah, noting like this is similar to Islam, more like christianity
Share with us at ... ( 6 months ago by omedyashar)
Share with us at what time (minute/second) in the clip I said putting your hands on your face is the minhag (practice / custom) of Jews. It does not appear in the clip.
I did quote a universally respected codification of Jewish law by Maimonides called the Mishne Tora -- the ONLY full codification of Talmudic law, wherein he wrote that ALL Israel is of the practice to lay out mats or the like in synagogues to sit upon, to separate their faces from stone when pros
trating, and gave reference.
I never said that ... ( 6 months ago by omedyashar)
I never said that most Jews in our time-period still do this. To the contrary, it is discussed in the pop-up annotations that the majority of Jews today have abandoned this practice, despite this being contrary to Torah law.
Do you mind sharing with me why you, along with many others, draw conclusions and spread your conclusions about things without even reading the information PROVIDED FOR YOU in the clip? Its a serious honest question.
Okay but you do ... ( 6 months ago by ChristianLove2008)
Okay but you do agree that you are a Minority when it comes to the "Manhaj" of the Jews, Because Most Jews don't practise this, even amoung the Most conservatives ones. Also There are many Mistakes of this since MOST people DONT know how the Real Prayer was done thousands of Years ago, This is According to Maimonides who most probably was Influenced by the Muslims in Spain in 900s and he wanted to resureect this Practise amoung the Jews, also where did you learn the word Manhaj from?
I know well that ... ( 6 months ago by omedyashar)
I know well that I'm a minority, but I am not an individual minority. I know personally around 20 people who pray this way, and they all know other people who pray this way who I don't know. Most people who pray this way do so privately, and avoid public prayer. But the MAJORITY of religious Jews bow to the floor during the holidays Yom haKippurim and Rosh haShana.
Maimonides was ... ( 6 months ago by omedyashar)
Maimonides was definately not the first person to mention this practice as Jewish LAW. It's explicit in the Talmud which predates Muhhammad, and was common MAINSTREAM MAJORITY practice among Jews until a hundred years or so after the Middle Ages.
I don't know what "manhaj" means, but minhag means practice or custom in Hebrew.
Prostrating upon ... ( 6 months ago by omedyashar)
Prostrating upon the ground at the end of prayers remained the mainstream majority practice among Yemenite Jews up until they arrived in the Holy Land.
you don't look ... ( 6 months ago by ChristianLove2008)
you don't look Yemenite, you speak tamani? Also yes Mamonides wasn't the first one but he was One the MOST influential Ones, and his Influence is still vibrante amoung many people even though they happen to be a minority. and Yes Talmud predates prophet Muhammad, just like Paganism does. It doesn't mean it is correct or that is Authentic, Remember even the Earliest Bible you have, Dates 600 years After Moses in Exile in Babylon
This is very ... ( 6 months ago by IlmHunter)
This is very similar to the Muslim Prayer
Subhan'Allah! All ... ( 6 months ago by Juwayriyyah20)
Subhan'Allah! All praise is due to Allah. very informative *****
i hate to say this ... ( 6 months ago by hurataimad)
i hate to say this yusef, but christianlove does have a strong point, maimonides was heavly influenced by muslim works n theologians, n it's kinda hard to ignore, if u see his sayings n works.
is it possible that u are following a practice, which was polluted by muslim theologians unintentionally? sure u can find roots to prostration in talmud, but doesn't mean that this is the original practice. i think u need to take a step back, n look at this, yusef.
hurataimad, ... ( 6 months ago by omedyashar)
hurataimad, although I am not at all convinced of this speculation, even if it were true, how can you, as a muslim, call it "polluted?" IF this is what happened (though it is not), from a Muslim perspective it should be considered a restoration, not a pollution. Besides, prostration is explicit throughout the Hebrew Bible, and there is absolutely no basis or reason to think that this is not the original practice. How can you suggest this if you think Islam "restores" the original practice?
I only wish people ... ( 6 months ago by omedyashar)
I only wish people would actually take the time to confirm the many references to the original JEWISH sources that I've provided in the clip, before commenting that the content of the clip is baseless.
It is undeniable ... ( 6 months ago by omedyashar)
It is undeniable that this is how the prophets prayed, and it is explicit in the Hebrew Bible that all the Israelites prayed like this. The majority of Jews slowly stopped praying this way in daily prayer sometime after the Middle Ages, though certain communities (ei: Yemenite Jews) only stopped about 100 years ago. MOST religious Jews still prostrate on two holidays in the year. I am not the only Jew who prays as in this clip, but most do so only privately - they are afraid of the reactions.
I intend to make a ... ( 6 months ago by omedyashar)
I intend to make a clip on the washing before prayer soon. Jewish law obligates Israelites to wash before prayer. It is likewise similar to what Muslims do, but not exactly the same in all the details.
NOTE: Not ... ( 5 months ago by omedyashar)
NOTE: Not EVERYTHING done in the clip is obligatory. I made this clear in the annotations. If someone is confused or mislead because he did not read, that is not my fault. If you can not see the annotations, don't draw conclusions on your own and assume they are the same as my intentions. I can not worry about every individual's error.
Main points of ... ( 5 months ago by omedyashar)
Main points of error:
1) The annotations say clearly that bowing BEFORE the Amida (Central Standing Prayer) is NOT obligatory. Halakha doesn't give any specific required position before the Amida. R' Avraham son of Rambam wrote in ha-Maspiq l-Ovdei HaShem that it's proper. 2) When falling to my knees, I place my hands
on my head to keep my kipa (hat) from falling off, which it almost did anyone at one point in the clip. It also helps me concentrate. I NEVER wrote that this is obligatory.
3) You only have to ... ( 5 months ago by omedyashar)
3) You only have to bend-over enough that your vertebra poke out, as already noted in the annotations. I never wrote that your forehead must touch the ground (though it's not forbidden). In fact, my forehead is not touching the ground in any of these bows except the very last one. The hair just near my forehead is touching the ground in these bows. Only in the total prostration at the end must the face be pressed to the ground -- if it's NOT stone.
Simply beautiful. ... ( 1 hour ago by KingOystar)
Simply beautiful. please keep it up.
HaShem bless you always!



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